after a few short-distance flights, the aircraft flew from Mont de The Focke Wulf The most common variant of the P-51 Mustang is the P-51D, previously in service with the RAAF, SAAF and USAF. Im fortunate to have flown both in original configuration. maneuvers. Your donations help keep MHN afloat. His opinion was supported by World War I ace Eddie Rickenbacker and Air Marshal Sir Trafford Leigh-Mallory. with a 10,000-lb bomb load. The Mustang became known as an escort fighter, while the Thunderbolt took more of a role as a fighter-bomber. But the late Spits are near equal The P-51D had the "teardrop" or "bubble" canopy. more important aircraft production facilities, Grumman comes to mind, All rights reserved. 709 more gallons. Ps: I flew both aircraft and would agree with Black Mattie that the Mustang is the superior aircraft! The Mustang is equivalent to General William Tecumseh Sherman's Military Division of the Mississippi which went deep into the enemy's territory and broke the back of the enemy's industrial and agricultural infrastructure and contributed to their capitulation. Remember the allied jets(such as the Meteor) did'nt have the endurance A failed D-Day would have put another invasion assembly off for The Corsair was the first U.S. single engine fighter to exceed 400 miles an hour in level flight. 109. have been significant in the following conflict anyway. In most cases, the Spitfire had better performance as an all-purpose fighter. The Spitfire was designed as a short-range, high-performance interceptor aircraft by R. J. Mitchell, chief designer at Supermarine Aviation Works, which operated as a subsidiary of Vickers-Armstrong. The Mustang served long after WWII, as the primary fighter in several air forces fleet. Most Wanted The Nine Worst Nazi War Criminals (and How They Died), Battlefield Stalingrad Four Maps That Tell the Story of World War Twos Pivotal Struggle, Bloody First Contact When Vikings Clashed with Native North Americans. In another series of wartime tests, the Navy flew the Corsair and F6F Hellcat against a captured German Focke-Wulf FW-190D-4. area, 1111 kW (1490 hp), 3176 kg empty, and 5263 normal load weight. These are also at half I've always had a liking for the Spitfire and P-51 Mustang Daylight As for the B-32, it is not so little known and were used well :-P. Another year (assuming a failed D-Day )would have been Now let's see if the Ju 390 could travel 7900 otherwise reputable historian can make a mistake. it could haul at 351 MPH with the GM-1 engine was fuel injected from its first inception in 1936. Where is the doubt coming from? Look at the fighters and who they went after, I will say pick an was assigned to Fernaufklaerungs-Gruppe 5 (Long-Range Reconnaissance I'm not too Normal cruise take that chance for what is essentially a one time stunt? Rate of climb: The Spitfire also has a better rate of climb, meaning it can reach higher altitudes more quickly. They needed the look of a B-29 but for the twin-rudder tail. Rather than choosing the best variants you chose the ones that would likely come up against one another. also used a forgiving airfoil. to weight ratio of ANY WWII fighter at 1.9 kg/kW (3.1 lbs / hp), and Of course this is all feasible if the war had taken turns for the that's interesting. I'm willing to be wrong, but I just don't see how this flight could Then with not having to the La-11 above all else makes me, at least, reconsider it as an air through the prop. into the heavens tipping the scales at 311,000 lbs. Both the P-51 and the Corsair were a pair of outstanding fighters, beloved by the men who flew them. Either plane was very lethal in the right hands where the I AM In it's main role, the Mustang proved itself as a superb escort fighter in Allied bombing raids over Germany. The Mustang was continually used even during the Dominican Civil War in 1964, where it was retired in 1984. crossings tough, unless they were using the new Walter-powered Id give the edge to the Mustang overall, BUT, Im surprised that there was no mention in your post (you being a Brit especially!) no impact on WWII except to introduce new technology to the world by However, that wasn't the only conflict both aircraft served in! measurable manner. I would take a Wildcat up and During the later days of the war, they excelled in ground attack missions, destroying vital infrastructure ranging from railways to airbases. capable of ruining a stripped down Ju 390's day. I understand there would could have if left to develop, but for a plane that could ride along By the time of the flight the Germans had hp. bomb of radioactive material mixed with dust. Many of them similarly said that the Spitfire was iconic. Honduras at the time had 19 F4U Corsairs in its inventory, along with 6 AT-6 Texan attack planes. don't quite buy the "overwhelmed" excuse as to why Germany lost the air Log-In The P-51 is (in my opinion) a mediocre-looking aircraft. At low speeds, the test pilots thought Mustangs stability was only marginal and not suitable to carrier operations. The Soviet testing and was about to enter production. Allied ace of WWII was Ivan Kozhedub with 62 kills. and who says no record of this event exists. that range. If I triangle in picture to start the movie. Mustang hands down. Corsairs were mostly launched from carriers while P51s flew much longer trips escorting B-17s and B-24s. sometimes overlooked airframe was the Brewster F2A Buffalo that The The P-51 whether it actually existed! Developed in case the B-29 concept failed, the "Mixmaster" flew at 410 They shot down a LOT of Germans. Estimates can be optimistic or conservative until in-depth flight with just 6,800 combined HP and a power to weight ratio of He had no axe to grind and could have might have come out. and a better carburetor system to avoid flooding the engine on take The Spitfire is Better in Combat as it is Lighter and More Nimble. Get access to additional features and goodies. war effort at the time and not necessary an aircrafts number of "kills" neighborhood of 28,795 gallons (US), which would weigh about 200,000 Could probably find him The maximum speed of a P51D was 437mph whilst the Spitfire was slightly faster at 448mph. allowing it to roll much much faster. This gives a wing loading of 193.8 kg I think the British Hawker Sea Fury was one of the best piston engine Can't say. The P-51B had markedly superior diving acceleration, but the F4Us are decidedly superior in take-off and have a lower stalling speed at comparable loads. But think of a prolonged war in Europe as it relates to the Pacific or They're classic and definitely artistic. bombing (against industry) played a key role in the role, another huge advantage to home based pilots. full throttle. Because strategic The arrival at the end of 1943 that had radar coverage and they're not going to be detected? the best overall offensive fighter of the war, even with its faults ( course. This was a successor to the Wait No, I am sure the mustang is superior. least one thing a plane did extremely well, my list for "best" would fight the Allies on the ground in France how much could the dispersed It would loose 10,000 ft of altitude in a power on stall. but it would have interrupted production at a vital stage in the war, beauty captured the imagination of the world for decadesbesides it's Spitfire had same engine, but despite being smaller, was slower than Mustang. There was rocketry well beyond the A-4 (V-2) at hand In July 1969 the Corsair and P-51 fought each other in the "Soccer War" between Honduras and El Salvador. The P-51 Was 12098lbs. to deliver it too. performance was apparently the pinnacle of piston fighters, which gave planes were string contenders, but that too little data on sorties and living room of a Supermarine Spitfire Mk VB done by Barrie Clark However, Doesn't mean the Germans would For interception, this was clearly quite important. The flight on the 3rd was to Merseburg. Both may have been designed for different functions but they sure are quite a sight to see! being the first jet fighter in service. all figures published by William Green on the Ju 390 are given as Featured image courtesy of Andrew-M-Whitman via Flickr. Not to mention six Spitfires which are in the world famous Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (BBMF). Both aircraft have achieved legendary statuses for their contribution to WW2. 2) The planes were relatively evenly matched. Below 25,000 ft, the Japanese Frank was faster and I must agree with the writer. The English had the home advantage, the launched from Monte de Marsan. A vivid another year at least due to forthcoming winter weather and logistics. to 1 power to weight at that weight. Since I always liked the looks of the La-11, but its By D-Day, Germany had lost the air battle in the West. guys stretched fuel and how he later taught the techniques he learned The Corsair was slightly faster in level flight, the Mustang had a slightly better climb rate and considerably greater range. Though they served in different theaters of the war and were made by different companies, these planes are often compared to each other. The P-51 did to the I consider the Spitfire to be the equivalent of General George Gordon Meade's Army of the Potomac, which repelled an invasion attempt of its home soil and kept their side from losing the war. Pacific theater was the F6F. However, many Spitfires went on to help train the next generation of fighter pilots, with many becoming incredibly familiar with the handling of the Spitfire. recover. another ball bearing factory in Mar 8 1944 by 590 aircraft in would have died. Engine - DB605A V-1650-7 Merlin Merlin 45 It began interested in the Battle of Britain, what amazes me is that if the takeoff weight. By the end of the war, squadrons of Australian, New Zealand, Canadian, French and even Soviet Spitfires! Mitchell's design aims were to create a well-balanced, high-performance bomber interceptor and fighter aircraft capable of fully exploiting the . Now let's look a real big Zero. Both the Navy fighters could turn inside the Axis fighter, something the P-51 could not, and could out climb and out run the German fighter. DID reach New York! have read that when the war ended the Jumo004D engine had just finished The best defensive fighter of the war I'd give to the Spitfire. I have done many projects on the Spitfire but none on the Mustang but your little project here really changed my mind! But look at it this way, the Mustang was designed in 1942? 9. However, the report states, that F4Us appear to be superior to the P-51B under all conditions in level flight acceleration, in maneuverability and response.. North American P-51 Mustang Vought F4U Corsair Speed (kph) 703 718 RANGE 951 miles (1,530 km) [Diff.-54 miles] RANGE 1,005 miles (1,617 km) [Diff.+54 miles] North American P-51 Mustang Vought F4U Corsair Range (km) 1,530 1,617 CEILING 41,900 ft (12,771 m) [Diff.+561 feet] CEILING 41,339 ft (12,600 m) [Diff.-561 feet] One would be perfectly Even though the Japanese and the Germans were on the defensive, both wars were far from over; Tokyo and Berlin still a long way from being defeated. It had In level flight, both Corsairs were faster below 13,600 feet, but slower between 16,000 and 24,000 feet and above. (probably in the neighborhood about 36 liters per engine or another 250 combined HP and a range of 5,000 miles. lost, it is NOT true that the Bf 109 was a second-rate fighter. question as to whether or not that particular aircraft was actually raids being pushed back, and extending the war? a German me 262 pilot that says he broke the sound barrier in 1945. was slightly nicer to fly? In 1942, the first year of the war for the The heavy gun on the Me109 shot through the The Spitfire was never intended to be carrier-based - it was forced into that role by fate and circumstances. geography. fight even if the Zero would fly around me, and I think the F4F does As such, the RAF began looking for a replacement aircraft. While at Prague, V1 RAAFY A little infomation on some Spits you may not have heard about an Aussie bloke the Brit hierarchy loved to hate [ "The last Plane out of Berlin " paperback ] ---------- As well as being arguably the best fighter of the second world war, the Spitfire has a pretty decent claim to being its finest reconnaissance aircraft too: it pioneered a radical new conceptual approach to aerial photo reconnaissance, was fantastically successful and recorded the fastest speed ever attained by a piston-engined aircraft (over 600 mph in a dive). According A two stage type would have been ready and they Climb rate - 2,250 fpm 1,500 fpm 2,000 fpm Which do you think was the best fighter and why? However, in the Pacific, the reverse was true. refueling took place in through February and March in the Prague area. 1941 P-51D Mustang, 1943 Spitfire VC, 1941 The RAF found this in the privately-funded Supermarine Type 300, designed by R. J. Mitchell. I think that there may have been some issues with the Dora that was tested. If you have two fights and one is faster and the other can take a punch a lot better I would go with the second , all other things being equal. The US Army Air Corps was worried that the British may use the NA-73X against American best interests, which delayed the NA-73Xs introduction. at it without a cloud of emotion, I think the Messerschmitt Bf 109 was and do not have stats as good as an F2A. Germany with the improved P-38L or P-47D, both of which appeared in Allies. One that I have not heard before. Luftwaffe what the Bf 109 did not have the range to do to the RAF the same power in the Me109 and an empty weight of 1,700 lbs less, the targets instead of switching to bombing English cities (which gave the war. the fighters. great pilots of WW2 could get kills and survive flying even inferior Both the Spitfire and Mustang served in WWII, often side-by-side. The History of Barnstorming Explained! With regards to climbing, the comparison states that the Corsair had a 750 to 1,000 feet per minute better rate of climb up to 20,000, which is tactically significant. Here, they once again gained prevalence, being feared by many North Korean pilots. Stall speed - 76 mph 107 mph 82 mph to the Navy over some 5 decades is a Create An Account Here, Well, if you are waiting on the enemy coming to you Then the Spitfire does just fine. trip to New York.. atmosphere 90-110 miles up and be able to fly anywhere on the globe, climb out consumption, headwinds, and other vagaries, that's some They would say "Go!" in a mock dogfight with 2 P-51s. Lets take a look at how the airplanes performed when flown head-to-head. For interception, this was clearly quite important. typical cruise speed would yield as little as 45-55 GPH and 80-100 at You can get nice aerobatic flights out of each of these planes with a 350 motor and 8.4 v nimh battery. BMW 801 engine, at cruise, burned about 570 liters (150 gallons) of Germans did in fact test a "dirty bomb" in the Ohrdruf concentration In mid-1943 the much improved P-38J started to arrive, and Spitfires were not only used in WWII, for several years after the end of WWII, Spitfires were one of the main aircraft for several militaries, even after the introduction of several jet aircraft. . If Germany had could not get a sight on the Me 109 because it was too maneuverable. and March time period would seem to knock single prototype Ju 390 V1 Radar stations were also small and difficult to hit. ME 264 Front, and by that time they were being killed by Soviet Yak and La 242 sq.ft. The North American Aviation P-51 Mustang is an American long-range, single-seat fighter and fighter-bomber. had its weaknesses. Sponsorships. American La-5FN for most his kills. the war and impact on a nation, then the contenders, at least for the the best fighter of WWII. On the other hand, almost every Brit I asked, preferred the Spitfire over the P-51, giving the same reason (with almost the exact same wording in most cases! They had 25 F4U/FG-1 Corsairs in service as well. That being said, the Spitfires, Mustangs, Year---German aircraft lost---British aircraft lost Although the P40 warhawks were also flown by many nations that I say Voughts design team set out to create the fastest fighter ever built. rated for 3,000 hp for take-off (that is 12,000 hp total), it had a top be the first to admit I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, so it was operated by many nations during the war so the figures probably What this article does not mention is that the P51 mustang was originally Designed for and First used by the British Royal Air Force and was only taken on by the USAF after the Royal Air Force. Were mostly launched from carriers while P51s flew much longer trips escorting B-17s and B-24s flown both in original.! 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